Interview with Promiseland Productions
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w/The Original Woman
Spoken Word Artivist Nitche Ward
For those of you who thought the revolutionary period was over…do we have a treat for you. Be inspired. Be encouraged. Get your soapboxes and your megaphones ready to rally with a righteous woman with a cause. Nitche Ward a.k.a. The Original Woman is not only poetically skilled to paint pictures with words, but she has also bears the moniker of “Artivist” (those who combine arts and social justice), carrying with her a mighty voice of empowerment.
Deeming herself a People Soldier, Nitche has been on the forefront of the spoken word scene since 1996, and crafting her art for over a decade. She recently stepped into the journey of a full time artist just three short years ago. “My work is somewhat different from most spoken word artist in that I am a full time social justice organizer as well.” Her mission is to utilize her words to mobilize the masses to make change – in addition to lobbying legislatures and organizing public demonstrations. In August of 2004, Nitche was involved in the assembly of the “Stop the Bush Agenda Protest” against the New York City Republican National Convention (an event that comprised 15,000 in attendance). Shortly before that she served as Senior Field Organizer in the National March for Women’s Lives (April 2004) – the largest march in the history of the US, gathering 1.15 million “artivist” and activist. In her last project (April of 2005), she was an essential element in organizing of the National Women of Color and Allies Conference - a historical event sponsored by the National Organization for Women. As if that isn’t enough, Nitche is the Festival Coordinator for a Semi-Annual National Freedom Fire Spoken Word Festival, and Co-Chair of Sistah Cypher – a venue with Queen Sheba out of Washington, DC, Chicago, IL, and Norfolk, VA, and London.
To shed light on some of her spoken word ventures, Ms. Ward’s works have been featured on BET’s Mic Check, the New York Reproductive Justice demonstration and several radio stations throughout the country. She’s performed with HBO’s Def Poets like Alix Olsen, Ishle Park, Staceyann Chin, and Helena D. Lewis. In , she’s worked along side national entertainers like Whoopi Goldberg, Infamous Peter, Paul, and Mary (National Legendary Folk Singers), Ani DiFranco (“Riteous Babe” folk singer), Moby (The face of techno), Wanda Sykes Hall (Comedian), Nikki Giovanni (Poet and activist), Yolanda Adams (Gospel Singer), MC Lyte (Hip Hop Pioneer), Myra J. (Comedian), and Queen Sheba, (Internationally known spoken word artist).
In between law school and performing fulltime in nationwide appearances, Nitche has penned an ensemble of poetry in a collective work called Naked Expressions and comprised three CD compilations entitled Life – By Any Means Necessary, The Messenger of Truth,and lastly, The Addiction.
Have you ever heard something so powerful, yet so enigmatic, that you had to listen to it more than once to get a full understanding of its message? Like food to a hungry man…he can never get enough. It’s exactly how I felt once I received a copy of Nitche’s poetry track, Barbie , via email a few weeks ago. We all know there is a difference between spoken word and poetry, but if I may, I’ll offer up an analogy of my own. Lightly put – poetry is a relative thought, while spoken word is the voice that relays such a conception and the emotion that envelops it. To say the least, my ears weren’t fully prepared for such fervency behind Nitche’s words. Because I was expecting the usual liberation of words flowing over a melodic jazz instrumentals (I love it, so no offense by any means), the dichotomy of hatred and self-love, anger and passion, combined with background antics that amplified an already profound delivery, spilling through my tiny computer speakers, left me utterly speechless. I contacted Nitche immediately after her piece met its end, to get a better insight on the person behind the words of such a powerful piece of work. Here’s what I learned from the Original Woman herself:
N:To begin with, tell us a little about yourself…like what you do on your free time?
TOW:I’m in law school right now so juggling classes and performing as a travel poet, can get kind of tough. I have to schedule things really far in advance sometimes. My initial intention was to stop but when I stop doing performing and just concentrate on school, but I get so depressed. I’ve been full time performance poet a little over four years so I couldn’t just go cold turkey.
N: Why law school? Poetry and law seem like two different entities that sit on two different sides of the creative spectrum.
TOW: The reason I am in law school is because of my work in the community…like with the National Organization for Women for example. I want to be able to make a stronger impact in the community. I am still a hard-core activist for women’s right. My law degree will help build a stronger foundation for a more solid background in that area. I don’t really call myself a poet; it’s what most people can identify with. But I use my poetry to get the message out to the people. Most folks don’t want to sit and just hear some one speak half the time. They need to be entertainment in order to pay attention so poetry is what I use to get their attention…I am a people soldier and I do whatever I have to do to be heard, whether it’s protesting, marching, seminars, teaching…I try not to limit myself as a poet.
N: Do you feel there is the difference between spoken word and poetry?
TOW: Writing poetry and spoke word are tweaked but similar…all poetry comes from the soul…the genres are just tweaked. Poets are literary writers, and like writer’s their general focus is more on the prose aspect of creating, where spoken word is centered on the message.
N: Do you consider yourself to be an artist? If so…why are you a spoken word artist and/or performer?
TOW: Yes…I would say that I am an artivist. I am an artists as well because I think that artist tend to look at life with a little different perspective… everything I do bleeds art. Even in my court cases and my classes, I try to incorporate art into my deliberation. Art to me makes everything have a different flavor.
N: What are you working on now?
TOW: The Freedom Fire Spoken Word Festival. It’s an annual event on its 3rd year, that’s going to be held in Denver. The whole purpose of the festival is to teach artists how to incorporate a message behind their music; to empower and incorporate the message of community into their works.
N: How would you say that you have handled the business side of being an artist? Describe some of your hardships? Some of the benefits?
TOW: I think that it is really, really hard to be a spoken word performer – a touring spoken word artist at that. You have to stay on the grind and network and make sure you get your name out there. I remember when I first started the idea of performing was glamorized. I was excited and hyped about it, but when I actually started going on tour, I realized how difficult it was because we don’t have a lot of big names [in the spoken word industry]. People always underestimate your work, promoters short you of money…they disrespect your work…often times I don’t know where I am going to sleep once I’m done performing. I just pray that I don’t have to sleep in my car. But I love the art of it. I stay with it; I dedicate my life to social justice, ‘cause if I don’t, then no one else will.
N: What advice would you have for those out there interested in venturing down this path?
TOW: My advice would be to always have a contract, it’s the key element to being a touring artists. Meet as many people as possible and use as many opportunities as you can to showcase what you can do. Always have business cards and learn how to promote yourself. Take an interest in studying how to be what it is you want.
N: What inspires you to write and how do you keep motivated when things get tough in the studio? Describe the influences or topics your works are centered around?
TOW: Social justice…when I was growing up I saw in my own household how social issues like crack cocaine, drugs and alcoholism affected my own family. Because it was so close to home, I saw that there was a change needed to take place – whether it is in my family or in my community. I love art, I love people, and I want something different for us. I feel we need to see each other out their hustling for change…like we do for money.
N: Who are your favorite spoken word artists; what artists have influenced you, and how?
TOW: When I was younger, Maya Angelou. At the time, she was the only one I heard about. Then when I got older, the more I developed, I took a liking to Nikki Giovanni. I lover the aggression behind her work…her poetry inspired me. But when I got into the spoken word scene, I saw that there were so many more under ground that were strong and talented. Like Queen Sheeba - she was always on the grind as an activist and that really inspired me because she does it successfully. Tim Jackson is another one. He’s not on an activist grind, but on a spiritual grind. His poetry proved to me that you can still have a spiritual aspect and still make spoken word a large part of your life. Woman Storm is another artist…she helped me to appreciate the conversational aspect of poetry by showing me how people in the audience don’t like to be spoken at…they like to be spoken to; it makes it more interactive.
N: I got a chance to listen to two of your pieces. Barbie and Matthew 5:5. Can you tell us a little bit about those?
TOW: (Sighing) Matthews 5:5 (see download at end of interview) took me a year to write. It was initially written about myself. But I found it was a hard piece to finish. Mainly because it’s about relationships. And I didn’t realize at first, but I didn’t know how to get out of a relationship…because I always had a hard time getting out of my own relationships…but as with most of my pieces, I thought that there had to be a ending or solution to the poems…but Sonya Renee helped me to realize that not everything needed a conclusion or a message, she helped me to understand that. The piece ended up being about a woman who watches her mother go through domestic abuse…Now, I also realize that the poem reflects what I saw my grandmother – my mother – go through…the abuse she went through. But, I didn’t realize it was a poem about her until after she passed.
N: Tell us more about Barbie?
TOW: It’s a personal piece that I wrote because when I was younger I went through a lot of self-hate. I was conditioned to think thinks like - why do I look different, why are my hips bigger, my hair was different, and my lips are bigger. I was surrounded by white people all the time and as a kid you tend to compare yourself to what is around you. So I wanted to become what I was surrounded by – not consciously. At some point I began to look around and love myself…but now I look at my little sister and see her battling the same issues of self esteem; and I see so many young girls who are not happy with who they are and what they look like. I see so many of them trying to look like white girls…I think a lot of people of color – especially women – don’t quite understand how oppressed we really are; even from our own people. So this piece was created to bring about awareness. I have done a lot of pieces in community centers and people claim that there is no longer oppression. So it is also brings awareness to the non-African American people…this pieces gives those who are not African American a new perspective.
N: Could you tell us some more about how you got started?
TOW: I remember I was in high school…first year – I wrote a poem called the Black Man’s Poem. It was an in your face piece about the plight of a black man…and while I was performing on stage the principle cut off the microphone…it broke my heart. That day after school, I started spitting the poem in the gym while we were waiting for our buses and every body loved it. I was about 13 or 14 at the time… but I remember the next day I noticed that there was a sense of pride around the school…it wasn’t long lived but it was when I first saw that I could have an impact.
N: Where do you see spoken word today, meaning what is your view of performances or pieces being written in today’s time?
TOW: A lot of our open mike sessions and spoken word events serve as our chat sessions. I think historically, spoken word, hip-hop music and poetry, back in the day we used them to celebrate, to educate, as our war calls. There was a purpose behind it. Poetry is the mother of hip hop; without poetry there would be no hip hop…I think it actually started way back in the 60’s when we were disgruntled and hungry and unhappy…Now, I think that everybody is so out for themselves, out here struggling just to make ends meet, that the content has changed. There’s a lot of negative…but there are lots of positives; there are several underground artists that are on the rise to bring the purpose and unity behind the music and writing.
N: Have you ever collaborated on a piece? Explain. If so, do you find it helps the process being one part of a creative pair?
TOW: Sonya Renee. She’s the 2004 National Slam winner and one of the first feminist activists. Working with her gave me a different perspective of poetry.
N: If you could work with absolutely anyone (artists, companies, writers--anyone at all) on a project, who would it be?
TOW: I would love to work with Jill Scott, Erykah Badu, India Arie, Common – although I feel that he should make more of an active effort into bring women to the forefront. An not just the girls in his videos. Dead Prez - I love their revolutionary stance…not everything they do is positive, but I still like their stance. Angela Davis and Asatta Shakur; I would like to know about their journey as women and the struggle. Build with them and how we can translate their struggles to women’s lives today.
So there you have it, a first-hand glance at the passion and enlightenment through the voice of Ms. Niche Ward. And last but certainly not least, I leave you with a two samples of her poetry (thought) and her voice (spoken word sample). I certainly hope you enjoy as much as I did.
Father America
All you could hear coming from his father’s house was screaming
And glass breaking
And somebody taking hit after hit after hit
Little Quadri ran out of his father’s front door screaming “that’s it!
I’m leaving. I’m leaving for real this time.”
But for some reason he couldn’t get his father out of his mind
Because he knew time after time he had tried to leave before
Time after time he had tried to walk out of his father’s front door
Because he couldn’t stay
Nor could he leave
Nor could he continue to accept the neglect and abuse he received
He had faint memories of being embraced by his mother’s red black and green sleeve
And he needed to find her
And though her cypher and embrace had been replaced by his father’s other woman
He knew the difference
He knew the difference because he wasn’t as significant as her other children
And they bore a stronger resemblance to his father
So it bothered him when his father would beat him because he looked too much like his mother
It bothered him when is Aunty Liberty took him as her lover
Nightmares of her hovering over him in the middle of the night
He knew it wasn’t right
All them trips up state
When she would take and rape him
She would take and rape him so much that his family trust turned to hate
But she would make him keep silent or be whipped
So she whipped like his father whipped him to get on that ship
With lies on his lips
And false pretenses that his mother had dipped and left him behind
So he punished and fined her with child support checks and international debts for his father’s crimes
Crimes like the crimes he committed when his dimes were short
And he walked out the house broke
He pushed a little dope
Got his hustle on he learned from Uncle Sam
It’s “all good” as long as you keep it in the “fam”
That’s how system always works and at least he got it honestly
Because his honesty only ended him up in the penitentiary
And Uncle Sam, nor Aunty Liberty, nor Father America would bail him out
He started to doubt whether he could make it
He had thoughts of going back, because maybe he could take it
He wrote to his father’s family, but they never wrote him back
He wrote to his mother’s family, but they couldn’t get over the fact that he was his father’s child
He reminded them too much of the wild uncivilized man who raped and left their mother
Even national sisters of color became his lover yet fell victim to the danger of hating each other
So he was still alone
And though biologically he was fully-grown
Mentally and emotionally he was still a kid
Looking for the love and protection that his father never did
Seeking justice, freedom and affection that he never fully lived
While he sat in that jail, sat in that jail growing tired and sick
Sick and tired of serving time for his father’s crime
Flashbacks crowded his mind
Of being lost in the red, white, and blue metamorphosis
Praying for an international social services
Aunty Liberty’s molestation
Estranged sisters and brothers in foreign nations
Father America beating out his breath
And Uncle Sam corrupting anything honest left of his self
And all he had left of his self
Was the need to find freedom, his mother, and death
He wept on the way back to his father
My country tis of thee
Found peace in the memories of his mother
Sweet land of liberty
Of thee I sing
In hopes of futures for his sons and daughters
Land where my father died
Land of the pilgrim’s pride
Made amends with his sisters and brothers
From every mountain side
Found freedom in the slaughter of his father
Let Freedom ring
All you could hear coming from his father’s house was screaming
And glass breaking
And somebody taking hit after hit
And little Quadri crying, “that’s it, that’s it, that’s it”
Father America
Author
The Original Woman
Nitche Ward
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